“If the world is any good, I should be receiving death threats.“ – Talking art with Jacob Ovgren

“If the world is any good, I should be receiving death threats.“ – Talking art with Jacob Ovgren

Jacob Ovgren has been contributing to the visual world of Polar since its early beginnings in 2011. After 14 years of working together, countless artworks, and a few angry messages from mums and dads, we thought it was time to showcase some of his work and give you a deeper insight into his creative mind.

Hey Jacob! Just for the record, could you give a small basic round-up of where you’re
from and how you got involved with Polar?

Originally, I'm from Helsingborg, but then I moved to Malmö when I was around 16 and met Pontus quite soon thereafter. I've been based in Malmö until two years ago. As I remember it, we just started talking in the skate park and he saw some of my drawings, I think. He was like, “oh, I'm starting this brand and if you're interested, you should come and do some drawings, and we could have a look.” Then it was like a long process before anything ever happened, because I was kind of a diamond in the rough, so to say. I had no idea what kind of style I wanted to draw, which is, I guess it’s the same for everyone.

When you start, you just find a bit too much inspiration from other people, and you get pulled in too many different directions. And yeah, since then I've been working with Polar off and on, until now. Well, I still do.

So that’s basically from the start until now.

Yeah, it's cool. It was very rough in the beginning there. It was such a small thing, and you never expected it to become this big.

“I think a lot of people do, but maybe they don't want to admit it.“

Would you say that had, and still does have, an impact on what kind of artworks you
were doing or how you thought about creating them? At the beginning for the smaller local brand, and now you know you’re creating an artwork for one of the biggest skate companies in the world.

Yeah, I mean, I think I started a lot more detailed with everything because I never had any thought of redoing things in the computer and making it digital. I was like, “I just scan, and print it on the board.” The whole process of working as an illustrator and doing vector graphics and all of that, it made me simplify things lots of times. Even if I liked more complex drawings, the medium kind of pushed me towards making simpler stuff. Especially if you're making comics, you can't start off too detailed because then you must keep it through like 20 pages of doing the same character.

Pontus had a lot of ideas as well. He pushed me towards that direction as well, which was good, because I had an idea of what I wanted to do but that didn't really fit the Polar brand, so to speak. I had to reshape my drawings to fit the brand as well, which is not at all a bad thing, because it just made me find something that was better and that I probably wouldn't have found otherwise.

Normally people and artists want to be the free bird and find it a problematic thing to
adjust their work to the brand’s likes. Do you really think it’s the opposite?

I think a lot of people do, but maybe they don't want to admit it.

What paved your way to become an illustrator or artist? You said that you started at a really young age. Throughout life and in your youth, there are probably moments when you realize that this is what you want to do?

Yeah. It's hard to say exactly what gave me the drive to do drawings. I was very inspired by skateboard graphics and records, and different cool illustrations, especially in my youth. I don't know if it was the boredom of math and other subjects, that I thought that I had to do something else. I'm not sure if it was that or if I just had a compulsion to draw and try to create something. And once I got going in a way, classmates would be like, “oh, that's a cool drawing!” Then I got this little spark, and I started thinking that it can become something. That just developed the whole time, where it got better and better, I guess. And now it's kind of the opposite. The only time I show drawings to someone is when I'm insecure about something. And usually, I know what's wrong with it, but it's quite an effort to fix it. And then I’m like, “fuck, I wish I hadn't said that because I know it myself.” Then I must sit down and change it.

But I also think it's a very good ability to have that, to see it and sit down and put in work again, because many people just don't want to revisit their work.

Yeah, it's quite hard sometimes. The stuff that you need to change can be the best part of it and the one you put the most effort into, but it's just something that doesn't work with the surroundings or the overall layout. I used to work a lot more by hand and then it was even harder to change stuff. On the computer it's a lot easier to just copy and paste and move stuff around a bit.

If I look at your artworks, they are a bit more on the, I will say, polarizing side. Is that something that evolved over time or was it your style from the early beginnings?

I was very into punk and metal. A lot of skulls and stuff that adults and parents didn't appreciate that much. So, in some way I guess it's been there the whole time, the need to stir shit up.

And then after a while you kind of realize that skulls and the things that grown-ups would find disturbing aren’t really seen as disturbing in my generation. It's like devil worship and this kind of stuff. It’s not edgy. And I wanted to do cute stuff that’s into quite horrific mischief. It looks cute at the first glance. And then you're like, “what's really going on here?” There is something disturbing about this image, something is not what it looks like at first. You must look a bit closer to see that there is another layer to it.

“There was a lot when I grew up. there were a lot of crappy boards, and big logo boards. I guess I wanted to be a part of making it better.“

You’ve skated for a long time, and you just said that your main inspirations were punk
and all that. What kind of art or visual world in the realm of skating were you hooked on as a kid?

Well, I must try and remember now. There was a lot when I grew up, there were a lot of crappy boards, and big logo boards. But I always liked the World Industries stuff and early Santa Cruz models. And I guess that kind of drove me in a way too, where I was like, “this used to be so well worked out and it had a quite cool aesthetic.” But when I came into it, brand designs have just been getting worse the whole time. And I guess I wanted to be a part of making it better.

And as you got the chance to make it better working with Polar, from the early days
in 2011 and onward, what are your first artworks which got printed on products?

The first items were board graphics. I think there was one that was called, ‘filling material’. I think that was the first one.

Talking about graphics, are there two or three graphics that are more special than the others to you?

Yeah, there are a few and they're quite similar in a way. I think it's the ones where I got to do a background and thought, “this is a complete piece in a way”. I find it very hard to do. Because with a background and characters on top it can get messy. In general, I'm very happy with almost all of them. And I'm not completely happy with any of them.I guess that’s good because it makes you always want to do better.

Could you give an insight on the process in general? Is it you drawing art on your own and then Pontus is calling you? Or are you sending in stuff? How’s the process from artwork to the printed graphic?

Usually, I'm just doing a bunch of drawings. Simple line drawings that I'm scanning or photographing into the computer. Then I always put them in a big file and try to put things together, like building a little story about what they're doing, and I send it like this, just a big mess in a way. The layout has never been my strong side, really. So, it's been much easier for me to leave that to Pontus. He's good at that. He sends it back to me and I do the final touches of it and make little adjustments. I'd say that is the most common process for us to work on graphics. But sometimes riders would send in inspirational images and come up with wishes too.

Is there some stuff that never got printed on anything that you would still love to see?

Yes, quite a few I think. I used to have an archive of stuff that never got made, but that I still like. Some of it is too edgy, I guess.

Some of them got changed a lot from the original idea to how it got printed, so they became a totally different board in the end. Then I saved the original as well. Maybe in the future, if I make some Puff boards, I can use them for that.

That's your own project, right? What is it about?

I mean, it started off because I just wanted to make comics. Basically, just an outlet where I could be more me. There’s some of my stuff that maybe shouldn’t be printed on a bigger company’s product. There's a bit more freedom when it's smaller and a bit underground. The whole project is just something to keep the creativity going as well.

Is it stuff that would make you receive angry messages from moms and dads?

Yeah, death threats, hopefully. If the world is any good, I should be receiving death threats. I mean, I got a few angry messages from angry parents. In one way, I'm happy that people are a bit upset.

When I check the artworks, especially on that blanket that got released through the
spring 25 collection, most of them are about a grotesque product or ads. It creates a vibe of products and ads all the time. I'm just thinking to myself, like into a fictional universe of where this is existing, how would that world and society look if this would become reality?

The whole little worlds that I usually love to build feel like just the prolonging of where we're going. Just that it's been pushed a bit further, where everything is being taken to the extreme. The things that we are upset about now for example, it's totally unimaginable to people maybe 50 years ago. For example, it started out with women being labelled as sluts if they showed their ankle. But now you can be half naked and it's all fine, of course.

“JACOB’S GRAPHICS ALWAYS STOOD OUT TO ME. A LOT OF THEM SORT OF MAKE FUN OF HOW OUTSIDERS MAY PERCEIVE AMERICAN CULTURE. THEY REMINDED ME OF DAYS WHEN THE GRAPHICS WERE RATHER GNARLY AT TIMES.“

– Aaron Herrington

You said once that a day without drawing is a lost day for you. Did you never get burnt out by drawing or creating art every day?

No, I don't think so. Sure, it can be stressful, but I always do. I don't have to draw every day, but I have to do something creative and something that makes the coming day a little better. You can make a new trick, improve in general. Improvement of life, health and your mind and everything. I guess it's just the human need for development and improvement that pushes it. Sometimes, if I feel like I'm getting stuck or it's like getting boring, I just have to change medium. So, then I work with wood, or I do something else.

It's been fun because I've been doing so much renovation lately. I have to make something, you know, I want to make it on my own. I don't want to buy stuff that is pre-made.

Which is the whole deal with stickers as well. Like why do you put stickers on a brand-new skateboard with graphics? You want to make it special and your own. You paint the grip tape, and you want to have your own little identity on it.

text by Gino Fischer / photos by Nils Svensson